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Lokesh, you wonder about Osho letting Sheela and Shiva and other pSychos close to him. You yourself used to sit at the back of discourse, and laughed when Osho blasted the little huddle of front-rowers. He said they were close to him cause they needed him the most.
What about the quote from Ramoda….He (Shiva) can come again and be my bodyguard. Nobody else will accept him as a bodyguard, because that is the easiest place from which to kill a man…
What is your take on that one? I read it as the bodyguard killing the Master scenario. Osho here demonstrates a clear awareness that Shiva is not only a nutcase, but also potentially capable of killing him. Yet still Osho would welcome him back as his bodyguard. Argue all you like, but one basic fact is that Osho was capable of identifying psychopaths, and allowing them to get close to him. You can postulate why from that basic standpoint.
Alok John you take the Chinese story about the old man and his horse completely out of context. The story points to non-judgement about that which you do not know, not creating false beliefs. It also is partly to do with accepting situations that are outside your responsibility and control. What do you think would have happened if in the story Sheela came along and said to the old man, I am going to break your son’s legs and steal your horse?
Kranti, it is time for a quote bashing competition. Here is a quote from Osho that has been (randomly) deleted from an Osho book called Life’s Mysteries.
IS THERE A POSSIBILITY THAT THE DISCIPLE’S LOVE FOR THE MASTER WILL NOT BE THE LAST BARRIER IF LOVE AND AWARENESS CAN GROW TOGETHER?
….Zorba is love; Buddha is awareness. It is easier to grow one, but is far more juicy to grow both together. And if both together can be grown, then the master will not be the last barrier, because in love and awareness you will become one with the master.
On the path of awareness the master is a barrier. That’s why Buddha said, “If you meet me on the path, cut my head immediately.” That is the answer on the path of awareness, because in Buddha’s teaching there is no place for love.
There have been schools of love like the Sufis. A Sufi will not agree with this. He will say, “If the master meets you on the way, become one with him.” But if you are understanding my approach… it is a little bit complex, because I am trying that your love and your awareness both go hand in hand….The world has known both kinds of people — the lovers and the meditators — but the world has never tried both together. This synthesis will bring a new kind of man. For this kind of searcher, the master is not a barrier at all. [End quote]
There is some basic merit in the arguments about devotion becoming extreme, yet the same can be applied to zen. On one hand you can become overly obsessed with the Master, on the other hand you can become overly obsessed with the individual. So whatever path you are on, there are always challenges and dangers.
You may subscribe to the notion that Osho migrated from devotional style to zen style. Do you also consider that he shifted from Zorba the Buddha to something else? In the above quote Osho clearly aligns his approach with an integration of love (which I also link to devotion) and awareness. Those that argue that they are protecting Osho from the devotional dangers are actually throwing out half of Osho’s integrated approach. Who are you to do this?
The compilation of books that I have looked at seeks to take out all the aspects of Osho that related to love/devotion/surrender, among many other issues. The thing is, as aligned with the above quote, in Osho’s discourses these aspects are interwoven so many times with aspects of awareness/Buddhism/zen. So what did the compilers do? They simply chopped out the (irrelevant) words and sentences and paragraphs. This destroys the essence of Osho. Then, people like Kranti read the completely distorted texts, and come here on SannyasNews and denounce those people that try and express and balanced view of the whole of Osho. If Kranti has read the dissected text of Osho for 17 years, then he will believe deeply that this is Osho’s position. That is why he has not changed his position even a fraction since he has been here on SannyasNews.
This dissection of Osho creates a conflict in which people that would normally subscribe to a more Sufi style will be in one camp, and the ones that would normally subscribe to a more Buddhism/zen style will be in the other camp. This creates a religious divide the same as in Sunni and Shi’ite Islam.
At the bottom of the last article I list many quotes simply chopped out of The Book of Wisdom and Life’s Mysteries. It creates a totally biased impression of Osho.
As Osho says in the above viewpoint, his approach is an integrated one, of love and awareness. The lovers of Osho have been thrown out. Only zen remains. This zen style being pushed at the resort and elsewhere, along with the same thing reflected in the hacking up of Osho’s words, is plain and simple destruction of the essence of Osho. It also creates a split in the Osho movement that gives rise to religious fanaticism and conflict.
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