Swami Detective // May 7, 2010 at 2:34 am

This is an interesting quote….Mystery school is alive only when the master is in the body.. When the enlighetened master is not there what can be provided is just the space where people can go , meditate and relate to fellow travellers.. How a dynamic mystery school can thrive without the Master in the same way it did when he was alive? You need Him to keep it alive [End quote]

Most people think that is what is happening at Pune resort, especially because it is no longer called an ashram and has fancy new facilities. Most people also think the publishing wing (OIF) is sharing accessible books about Osho too. Yet we see that there is a systematic misreperentation of his words. It is not just cutting out stuff to do with anything that may be conceived as distasteful devotional mumbo jumbo. It is also not just about propagating the general notion of devotional free ‘zen’ either.

Most interesting is Jayesh’s very own personal relevant view….He asks in this understanding that where Osho is used – be it in the name of a meditation center, a publication, a therapist’s title, or in any other context –that people coming find Him, His understanding, His proposal with all 24 karats. That nothing associated with Osho cause confusion to others coming about the essential direction of their path – particularly to His new people. [End quote]

If you have a look at the examples of systematic deletions from Osho texts (at the bottom of the last article), how can one maintain that 24 karat purity has been maintained. It is not even gold painted. It is fools gold!

Here is the next relevant view from Jayesh….He [Osho] shares that many of His people who were with Him in the body would not make the jump from the presence of the master in the body to the absence of the master in the body. That for the mind of many, the gap created would be too deep and too wide. That in the mystery of existence, they would not understand that they had received from existence exactly what was required of the Master’s bodily presence. And that in this pain of the mind they would travel the world sitting at the feet of every idiot – Osho’s words. Clear, accepting and compassionate.

He also says that His new people, who would be coming after He left the body, would not have the need of His physical presence – again in the mystery of existence, if they had that need they would have come earlier. He says existence calls people to the work of an enlightened One at exactly the right moment. That because of countless generations of religions and priests, we are conditioned that we need the other and as a result we give the other our responsibility. That his new people coming would be very fragile in their potential to be totally responsible and be courageous enough to walk alone, feeling the presence of the Master without the need of His body….

….perhaps you are not available now to His message to us all – present and future – that without the burden of His tortured body His presence will be more available to His people. [End quote]

So if you read a fancy advert in some New Age magazine in the West (or East), you probably would come to Pune resort thinking that it was a nice modern cult free space to meditate and hang out with fellow seekers. Well Jayesh has other ideas!

Kranti expresses a view that the living Master is extremely important, even essential. We can do some quote bashing on the subject but will that get anywhere? I would argue that it can reach a conclusion. At the end of his life Osho made it absolutely clear that there was to be NO spiritual successor. He did leave a group called the Inner-Circle. He however made it absolutely clear that this body was not a substitute for a spiritual successor, and that this group was to administer his practical affairs.

At one stage Jayesh (Chair of the Inner-Circle) was having some disobedience trouble with people visiting other living Masters (fake or otherwise). So Jayesh shuts this down by introducing his take on what Osho means to him (now that Osho has left the body). This is Jayesh’s own interpretation of Osho. As Chairman of the Inner-Circle he has a practical limitation to his mandate. Yet, he ignores this.

Here is the end of the letter from Jayesh that I have quoted….

With love to you,

Swami Anand Jayesh, Chairman,

On behalf of the Inner Circle.
[End quote]

You see it is Jayesh, as Chair of the Inner Circle, which has a practical mandate, who imposes his personal views of Osho on the entire movement (and others that become interested).

Kranti offers a quote that expresses an idea that Jayesh also likes very much, that of individual awareness. The trouble with this quote is that it focuses so much on this concept that it diminishes the importance of the Master, so much so that in the end Osho says that once the Master has gone, everything worthwhile has finished. (Remember that Osho left NO successor!)

The system that has been adopted for editing and compilation is such that the inclination would be in this instance to keep the first part of the quote, and then delete the last part. Then, when you put it all together, you get a non-devotional ‘zen’ impression of Osho, yet you still get to keep the Master (even now that he is dead). You see the last part of the quote actually completely discredits everything done after 19th Jan, 1990. That is why it should be deleted. Actually that is not entirely true. It discredits everything that seeks to create the impression of an Osho sannyassin as having spiritual authority (and spiritual superiority).

The simple fact of the matter is that Osho left a straightforward non-controversial road map. With no spiritual successor, the only scope is to protect and make available his legacy. There can be no interpretation or argument, even at the highest levels. The reason is because the highest level was a practical managerial administration (the Inner-Circle). If you understand the simple truth of being in the Inner-Circle, who would want the job anyway. It is simply to protect his property, make available his meditations, therapires, discourses, and publications, all with the aim of 24 karat purity. Jayesh is right about the 24 karat purity part. It is why anything other than editing for simple grammatical mistakes is not possible. Yet, vast editing and deletion and creation has been done.

Who would want to be in the Inner-Circle? Well just after Osho left the body Amrito (vice-chair) said that in White-Robe the following night he would explain the functioning of the Inner-Circle. Explain what, that you had just been given a boring practical job. Ah no, some people in the Inner-Circle were great devotees and disciples of Osho. They had imbibed the spirit of Osho for decades and were now saintly beings. So the secret that the work of the Inner-Circle is an entirely boring affair was kept a secret. This is the secret. The secret is already out, it is just that you have forgotten.

Then Jayesh and Amrito kicked everyone else out, and see the result. What do you think of Jayesh’s very own personal views about Osho. He is imparting his spiritual views on the Osho movement. He likes flash things hence you get either 5 stars or nothing, but he also likes to be the chief disciple of a Master that though dead, is still very much alive. Did you know that? Did you find that out when you read the latest Yoga journal or when you read the latest Osho texts that are subject to systematic deletion and editing?

What about when you make the journey to the Pune resort? Even then you will not have a clue. You will either have to visit the German Bakery, oops you can’t do that because it has been blown up. Oh well maybe ask a dissident, oops you can’t do that because they have all been banned or left Pune through issuing of threats and violence.

Hmmm, where is Jayesh?

Well, he is a busy finance guru and only works behind the scenes to make available a nice space for people to meditate and meet. You see, it is because he is humble and has no ego, unlike Keerti and Rajneesh and others.

Right so he has no spiritual interpretation of Osho that he secretly has imparted to me through the book I read?

Nahh, not at all.

Right, so the resort looks innocent enough, but actually the background is that the people higher up in management have a spiritual interpretation of Osho that fits with Jayesh’s, and they are also answerable to Jayesh?

Nahh, they are just individual meditators who have lived here in this closed world for decades and have no cultish bias.

Great, can I get a job?

Sure, by the way, what is your belief system? And have a drink of the contaminated drinking water. Oh, yeah and that explosion you heard, I think it was nothing. Hey lets go to the party!

Hey who is that guy he just slipped over the fence.

Ahhh, that was nobody, it was just your projection. You will learn in time.

Swami Detective // May 7, 2010 at 12:17 am

Kranti I mention other key figures in the movement to create a perspective against the view that everything is run by Jayesh, Amrtio, and the team.

You chose to indirectly criticise and therefore neutralise what I said about the editing out of issues like love, surrender, and Osho’s equating love with the Zorba part of Zorba the Buddha. You chose to do this by changing the equating my use of the term devotion with Osho’s use of the terms love and surrender. You created a diversion of the main subject by going into a general critique of devotion (worship). I presented the case by using the term devotion (rather than love or surrender), and it appears that that is a word you don’t much like for some reason.

Yes you have offered a quote which focuses more on individual awareness, where as I offered a quote that focused on a balance between love and individual awareness. Of course I am sure I could find a quote that focuses more on love alone as the path. Obviously the more the focus on individual awareness the less the need for the Master, and that is whether or not the Master is in the body.

If Osho gave a discourse which spoke of both the issue of love and awareness together, and also of individual awareness (just like your quote), what would happen if I cut out your quote when I did the compiling? If I did this systematically, and then a whole bunch of people read it, then this bunch of people will have a collective belief system based on this. Then when you say that Osho was all about individual awareness you will be laughed at by the Osho community. This systematic bias is what Jayesh and Amrito are doing with their editing and compiling. You support there views probably in large part because you have been exposed repeatedly to their unbalanced and biased media.

From your quote you seek to justify the de-Ohoisation process at the resort. I ask, how is it that other quotes that offer an alternative viewpoint are somehow invalid. Of course at the end of your quote you introduce a view of the movement around Osho coming to an end with him leaving the body. From here you argue de-Oshoisation is OK, yet you also support the process undertaken by Jayesh, Amrito and team (both at the resort and in general). You can’t have it both ways!

If you like the meditations at the resort and are not interested in anything to do with other aspects of Osho, then it is likely that even if you were with Osho (when he was in the body), you would have been there primarily for the meditations (and the women). Your quote fits with what you like about Osho. Osho has offered so many other approaches (including the Love/Zorba the Buddha) approach. You, and nobody else, has the authority to delete these from Osho’s legacy. Of course if you want to set up a centre that fits with what Osho meant to you, go ahead. If you hand out a holy bible at the front gate that is a biased cut and paste job that deeply undermines Osho’s message, that is not OK. It is also not OK to do it in Pune, because Pune was the only place that Osho left to offer his complete package. Of course Pune has been over run by a bunch of zealous bigots that are full of zen and worship hyprocisy.

How is it also OK that the entire meaning of Osho’s words are changed through the editing process? There are clear examples of this in the deleted quotes at the bottom of the last article.
How also do you fit in the viewpoint from Jayesh that Osho as a being is fully available to all seekers on the path (not just his awareness, not just his energy field, but someone his entirety), such that even newcomers need not go to any other of the living (fake) gurus around the place?
So the roseflower has gone, the mystery school has gone. Funny enough I would agree with you on that one. What are you doing arguing here then? Why did you go to Pune? Why, when you were pinned down for your inconsistencies did you finally admit that you had a bias towards Amrito? Had you met him when you said this? This seems strange to me?

Kranti simply because I make a comment that appears to be in conflict with Osho somehow makes everything that I have set in a positive way invalid? For starters there is no conflict because, as I explained, it is likely that he viewed Sheela as 99 percent useful in the beginning, and 99 percent pain in the ass in the end. Of course, as I also explained, Osho had to try and justify The Ranch implosion to his people (the sane ones that is). This general need gave rise to a series of discourses that had a practical motivation that was probably more political than spiritual. You jump to conclusions in order to criticise when the answer is all ready in front of you. You did the same thing with Swami Rajneesh.

Kranti, you differ from your bosses on the issue of the Master after leaving the body. You do this through your own misuse of Osho quotes. It is OK to chose the words of Osho that support your view, and that you follow this. It is not OK that you try and force others to adopt this view and live accordingly, especially when it is so obvious that Osho has offered many other views on the subject.

Yes it is dangerous to change anything that the Master has left behind. Good point, and this is why when it is so clear that major changes have been made this should stop. The compilations which have a deep bias through systematic deletion and change of meaning should be removed from circulation. They can create a bias in the mind of the reader. This bias is the basis of a belief system, a cult, or a religion. The bias and deletion in the books is the same as in the Inner-Circle and the Pune resort. If it continues, and with Pune resort has the physical centre, a new and dangerous cult/religion will be born (has been born already actually).

Swami Detective // May 5, 2010 at 11:39 am

Kranti you can play semantics as much as you like, but it does not change the situation. Obviously if you are using the term devotion to refer to the negative tendency of excess worship, then yes devotion is not equated with love (or Zorba). If Osho was referring in any particular passage to the negative sense of devotion, then of course it would not be equated with Zorba or love. Devotion is today usually viewed in the negative sense, and so therefore it is more popular to consider oneself a great disciple rather than a great devotee. This does not change what I mean when I refer to devotion as the process of dissolution into the Master. It is the same as the path of love and the path of the Sufis.

Kranti has a definition of devotion as (negative) worship and putting the Master on a high pedestal. The term Zorba in Zorba the Buddha, the term surrender, and the term love, have the same meaning as described by Osho in the passages deleted from the Osho books. OK so it is love or surrender that has been cut out of the Osho texts. OK so it is Zorba that has been cut off the Osho texts and the Osho movement. Call it what you like, but the systematic deletion process in the two texts chops the Master in half, as per Osho’s own definition of Zorba the Buddha. It actually destroys the Master’s vision. Your negative definition of devotion makes no difference. I will call Keerti, Arun, Neelam, and Swami Rajneesh great lovers who have surrendered to Osho. The terms devotion and devotee have nothing to do with it at all. Many people (including from the Inner-Circle) that are representative of different dimensions of Osho have been forcibly removed. They have been kicked out, and the dimension of Osho that they are aligned with has been deleted from the Osho texts.

The editing of the texts is not what people think. Have a read! It is firstly removing love or surrender (what I also call devotion). It is, as Osho himself says, removing Zorba (love) from Zorba the Buddha. It has nothing to do with your ideas of love, surrender, devotion, or Zen. It comes directly from Osho’s explanation of Zorba the Buddha (equating Zorba with love), and the fact that the passages relating to love (which Osho uses interchangeably with the term surrender) have been removed from the texts. Of course there are other changes to the text that also completely change the meaning.

Admittedly I may be charged here with quote bashing. In reading the entire text, I consider the meanings Osho has given to be clear, and that I have here reflected this. OK so I am cleared of the worst grade of quote bashing, but still the charge is there. The reason is that there are probably numerous references to Zorba being this or that. This is likely the case, yet this ironically only reinforces the central argument anyway.

Osho is clearly a complex and multi-dimensional fellow, and so to make any major changes to anything in his discourses (and his legacy) is an affront to its integrity. In the texts I referred to Osho moves swiftly through so many different issues. If through this process he let’s say addresses the issue of rebelliousness (or perhaps corrupt politicians or priests) on any number of occasions, then I simply cannot delete these references without changing the meaning of the entire passage.

The references are interwoven in a complex web. It is not like Osho will just give a great spiel on one issue alone. He was a rambling forgetful genius. He had the unique quality of prolific rambling on an array of subjects with who knows what changes in depth of meaning (and style of delivery). It is like a magical bundle of knotted twine that is impossible to unwind. Yes you can point to different parts of the bundle of twine. What else can people do? Who has the intellectual genius to fathom but a small fraction of what Osho offers? Yet this does not mean you can cut off the bits you like with a pair of scissors, and then place these bits together to make a new piece of string. This is what is happening with the type of editing of texts that I have looked at. This destroys the meaning of the message and the integrity of the discourses.

Kranti you consider the objections to editing to be based on worship or what you negatively refer to as devotion (“how dare you touch…”). So have you considered the objections? Have you looked at the editing? Or, did you simply pass judgement on the objections without being informed? Actually that is what you did, and do you know what that is? It is called blind judgement. You are saying yes to editing and no to the objections without knowing yourself anything about the matter. This means you have a conditioning in favour of the Pune resort and team. This is called devotion (in the negative sense). You are a great devotee of Amrito, ha ha!
Have you met Keerti or been to the centre in Delhi? Have you met Arun or Rajneesh? How much time have you spent with Amrito, or indeed at the resort? You have strong views based on nothing but reading books that you have no idea how heavily or in what way they are edited. You are the essence of devotion (in the negative sense). The blind worships the blind.

Of course you say you would like to know more, and do not want to comment. All this after you have made great comment. You are not only a great devotee, but also a great hypocrite.
Shantam, not for your sake but rather for the sake of those that might start believing you false claims, I am not Abhay. As the great master Hitler knew only too well, if you repeat a lie often enough it shall become the truth. You ask will anything change. Will you?

Shantam, His people can speak (or not) what ever they like. That makes no difference to who Osho was, and what he said. It does not change the fact the Osho declared there be no spiritual successor and that the Inner-Circle was not a pseudo-guru group, but a practical managerial group.

Since you are a great lover of Osho (what I call a devotee) you might like to share quotes that highlight love or surrender. That is well and perfectly good. Since Jayesh is a great zen disciple he might like to share quotes that highlight meditation or awareness. (Of course he is actually a great devotee, in the negative sense).

Trouble is, what has happened is that in discourses that interweave many different perspectives, the particular references to love or surrender (and also death, social theory, and rebelliousness, etc.) have been cut out. When you read through the amended text, it gives the false impression that you are viewing something that is complete and whole, when it is clearly not. Even if a book states clearly that it is a compilation, this false impression is still there.

The point of a compilation is to provide an impression without losing the essential message. Yet, as explained previously, with Osho’s style of lengthy intertwining complexity, and with the style of ‘compiling’ being one of cutting out particular references as the arise, the essential meaning is lost. It is not like Osho talks only about ‘zen’ one day, and the next day he talks only about ‘devotion’. So many issues are intertwined in any given discourse, such that compilation based strictly on one subject matter (in the way done in the texts I have looked at) gives this subject matter new meaning, and takes away the capacity to give meaning to the subject matter that has been deleted.

If I read a quote from OshoWorld.com, then I know that it is just a fragment that of course supports their position. If I read a quote from Osho.com then of course I know that it is just a fragment that of course supports their position. (Unless, like most happy fools I am naïve and stupid). In the case of the two texts however, when I read them I start with the assumption that I am reading something that is offering a general and comprehensive perspective of Osho’s understanding, yet what I get is actually an expansion of one perspective (or fragment), at the expense of other perspectives. In this lies the deception, and the injustice to the meaning given by Osho. It changes the meaning! It is the same as the quote bashing that takes place here and all over the place. A fragment of Osho is used to justify your position in an argument. It takes Osho out of context and gives the words a new and slanted meaning.

The books that have amended Osho’s words in this way should have a warning something like that on cigarette packets. WARNING: Reading is a mental health hazard. It should also say that the view offered is a biased and false impression created by personally motivated systematic deletions (and additions), and does not reflect the views of the so denoted author (Osho), but rather a cult of narrow minded corrupt fascist pseudo-Zen psychopaths.

Lokesh, it is clear that at certain times Osho’s discourses reflected certain practical realities rather then deep spiritual truths. For example, when The Ranch imploded he took to providing different types of explanations to the various interest groups (to either get rid of them or again try and draw them back into the fold). Imagine Osho back in Pune after all the dramas of The Ranch. The guys image was in tatters. If he wanted to attract some more people he had a little bit of explaining to do I should think (of course not to himself, but to us worldly folk who by the way are not enlightened, but are also not entirely stupid).

When for example in the early days Osho stopped travelling around India and decided to settle and create a community, then of course he would need people with practical skills to support this. It wouldn’t be much good if everyone wanted to either touch his feet or sit 24/7 in zen. I find it difficult to draw from this that at the end of calculation table when The Ranch imploded, that Sheela came out with a score of 99 percent positive. I consider that maths to be devoid of any common sense.

It makes me think of Jayesh. I wonder why?

Swami Detective // May 5, 2010 at 1:26 am

Shiva and Sheela were religious orientated power hungry psychopaths capable of crimes I prefer not to imagine. The Waco siege was mentioned previously. What about Jonestown? So Sheela spent some time in jail and Shiva went off to a psychiatric institution. Still, after so many years have passed, most people would say the pair remain in the least quite disturbed. Though they may be still power obsessed and nuts, at least they are now relatively harmless.

What about the next bunch of bozos that came to power? Any substance abuse going on there? Any illicit sexual relations? Any propensity to violence? Any lack of judgement, especial in testing circumstances? Any lack of commonsense?

With the exception of the live-in Pune resort part of the gang, the movement is quite dispersed. If there is a religious extremist mentality like in Waco or Jonestown, yet with a dispersed power base, how does that unfold? Do all the jet-setters fly in on new years eve for a special siege celebration? Does a person who got taken by an advert in some American yoga journal become the new profile of siege victim?

How’s about you folk stop tryin ta save the planet, stop living in decades old delirium, and have a look at one is going on HERE & NOW!

Swami Detective // Apr 28, 2010 at 12:22 am

Interview in the case of Swami Detective versus Jailesh, Armedrito, Dhynamite, I’l Drag You Outta White-Robe With My Hand Over Your Mouth Yogendra, Mookuss, and Gang.

The Osho dissidents were planning a mass rally on the 19th January.

On SannyasNews we have Keerti saying that he heard that many Westerners had planned a mass gathering. He also sounded like he might round up a few locals too, and have a little combined street dance party. Abhay also was planning a book release of his compilation of recent SannyasNews gossip, with the location likely to be outside the resorts front gate. Sounds like quite a scrum pack.

So it looks like there might have been a bit of a party planned for the 19th January. Anyone at the resort feel threatened by this? Nah, you guys never heard about it, and you don’t have anyone that keeps tabs on SannyasNews.

Now I am well aware that you planned nothing in the face of the threat of terrorism. But what about this Osho death celebration anniversary. It looks to me like it could turn into a revolution. You didn’t much like Abhay at the front gate with a detailed Water Contamination Report that anyhow isn’t that much of an attention grabber. Of course you created the attention by trying to bash him up. That was not very intelligent on your side. Think it attracted any attention? Now Abhay might have a book that has much more content and is quite catchy. It is also contains much of the ugly truth of what has been going on at the resort.

We have the potential for a mass gathering of dissident Westerners, and also it looks like Keerti might be mustering the troops for battle too.

Interview Question 1: Did you guys plan anything in response to this potential threat on the anniversary of Osho’s death? I know you would have heard about it. What did you do? Any special meetings? Any general strategic, or perhaps tactical responses planned? Did you inform your friends at Pune police cop shop? Try and spin a few lies and get them on your side (that is the ones that aren’t already)?

Now I have not heard of any mass gathering actually happening in opposition to the resort. Did it happen and the media missed it? Did it happen and it was just Keerti and Abhay? Losers! Where was Swami Rajneesh? So if nothing happened, I suppose your plan gets wasted doesn’t it?

Interview Question 2: What did you guys plan in response to a possible mass gathering of opposition supports on the anniversary of Osho’s death (sorry, losing the body)? Did you hire a few more guards for the front gate? Did you by any material to fortify the resort entrance for example?

I suppose if something did transpire you would be holed up in the resort. That doesn’t sound like much fun.

So Jayesh and Mukhesh both were holed up in hotel rooms in the recent Mumbai siege. I suppose that would not have been much fun either. That makes me wonder, why, with senior managers already having a real life terrorist encounter, did the resort then not seem to respond to the threat of terrorism (late last year), and the actual terrorist bombing of the German Bakery?

Doesn’t Jayesh and Mukhesh have much say in what goes on there these days? Seems a little odd to me. After what they went through, I would have thought that they would have done the utmost in this regard. Of course Jayesh must have some say there. He got Sudheer to ban the guy who tried to inform the party goers that night what happened just down the road at the local bakery (dissident hang-out). This is very strange, of course just to me, and I am a wacko.

Interview Question 3: Did Jayesh or Mukhesh have any flashbacks to the Mumbai siege when they heard about the planned opposition rally for Osho’s losing the body anniversary?

I have heard from a resort insider that Keerti is a terrorist. He even made a kidnapping attempt on Amrito, but fortunately the Pune cops were called in, and Amrito was saved. I have also heard that Abhay is a violent and dangerous person.

I know you folks from OIF, the Inner-Circle, and Pune resort are all saintly beings deeply devoted to Him. And I know all the opposition supports are bad bad people. I suppose this planned mass rally may have looked pretty threatening? Sounds to me like there could have been a major civil unrest incident in Koregaon Park.

Interview Question 4: What did Pune resort management do in response to the planned mass rally by opposition supporters?

Interview Question 5: Anything left over that didn’t get used?

You might be surprised to know, but I know a little about how business works on the street. When you hire someone it is often times difficult to get them off the books. They keep coming back wanting more money and offering more services. (I read that in a book). I also read about Abhay being threatened on a number of occasions around Koregaon Park. Could have got pretty nasty.

In one such incident there is a fairly obvious case of likely collusion with Dhyanesh (the one involving the ‘rooms for hire’ rickshaw wallahs that hang out at the German Bakery). Also, as Abhay has stated, the second attack on him looked planned. So it would seem the folks at the resort can plan an attack on one of these annoying dissidents. The attack was also executed to some extent, but I reckon you coulda dun a bedda job!

Interview Question 6: It looks to me like the guy with the knife that approached Abhay (on a narrow path in an isolated part of the Osho Teerth park) was part of the show. If that is the case, I am just wondering, was he planning to use the knife, but Abhay saw him just in time? Was it just a meant as little friendly threat amongst fellow Osho devotees of Him? You know, just like Freschee reckons, a bit of psycho pillow pampering?

I know where Abhay was approached by the guy with a knife. I have gone through that location in my mind. Do ya know what? If I planned someone like this, of all the places in Koregaon Park, I would have chosen the Osho Teerth park. Do you wanna know what else? Of all the possible places in the park, I would have chosen precisely that little area. Maybe someone is thinking clearly.

It seems the resort management does plan things, even things that have the potential to quickly escalate into serious and possibly lethal violence. So it would seem that you great Zen devotees of Him do not just live in the moment. Maybe ya all aren’t real devotees of Him?

Interview Question 7: Did you keep any additional security guards on the books? I know it’s hard to get rid of them, they are like leaches.

Interview Question 8: Did anything happen the night of the 13th February, such that when it did you had one of those ahhhh moments, and new straight away what it was?

Interview Terminated

Swami Detective // Apr 26, 2010 at 10:53 am

Here it is, twenty years of throwing tanties is gonna be solved in a monsoon long group at the Osho Resort in Pune. The Chairmen Mao inspired compulsory de-education group, called Anti Tanti Neo Nanno Osho Hanky Panky shall primarily be conducted in a cloud of total secrecy in the third basement of the Auditorium by none other than Black Robber Fresch as a Truolip, with the aid of ground-cutting insight from Hapless Helper Krackpot Kranti.

Breakfast:
Miso soup made from freshly contaminated drinking water, complete with oversized glowing green insects from the resorts very own organic farm.

Please note that someone has stolen the ownership rights of the farm from the Pune resort, and so therefore the organic insects cannot be guaranteed to actually be organic. Check Osho.com for further details.

To wash down your miso soup there will be an endless supply of top-shelf spirits, complete with ice from the resorts very own contaminated drinking water.

Morning Therapy:
Encounter of the Rugby (Football) Scrum-packs. For the “orange-shirts” we have Keerti and Swami Rajneesh as front-row forwards, and Neelam as hooker. The rest of the pack will be made up of everyone from Viha and Boulder that has not changed sides by the start of the encounter. Of course you are free to change sides once you pack in for the scrum.

For the “maroon-shirts” we have of course Dhyanesh and Jailesh as front-row forwards, and Amrito as hooker. The rest of the pack is of course a secret because it will comprise the unknown number of anonymous current Inner-Circle members.

I have yet to work out which side Abhay is on, so will have to get back to you on that one.
Tomorrow night during White-Robe I will announce the detailed functioning of the event. Please note that this may change if I get a directive from Jailesh to shut up.

Lunch: Same as breakfast, but with more alcohol.

Afternoon Therapy:
Tantra for the Tanties. Please note that for this exercise you can still wear your orange or maroon shirts, but, as you will find out, there is no need for excessively burdensome undergarments or chastity belts. If you would like to go deeper with your soul-mate she/he is also welcome to join in the affairs.

If your beloved chooses not to participate, let me here take the special opportunity to assure him/her that your purity of spirit shall not be compromised in any way.

All exercises shall be carried out in the sewer….oops, mountain stream that runs through the resort. Warning: Do get totally carried away with the Tantie Tantra exercises because this aids the process of toxic sludge….oops, Himalayan minerals seeping into the underground water table. From there the delicious mix of Himalayan minerals goes straight into your miso soup. You will then find the miso soup much more filling.

Actually I just have word from Doc Amrito that what I previously said about him announcing detailed functioning in White-Robe tomorrow night actually never happened. You got it, the details have been dehypnotised from my memory, and you can no longer read what I previously wrote on the subject (as you have also just been dehypnotised).

For the next twenty years or till the start of the monsoon (whichever comes sooner), there will be no further comment, not even to comment that I did comment and then deleted the comment, or even to comment that that may also have been a comment. Oops I better shut up else Jailesh will be giving me a few comments of his own. Please note that that was not actually a comment, it was rather, a mild indiscretion, based on a rare crack in my powerful field of awareness. Ahh that’s better, I have just re-tuned in to Planet Osho’s vibe.

Dinner: Same as lunch except with more alcohol.

From dinner we will go on a pub-crawl that alternates between the Blue Diamond and the O-hotel, until we either pass out or it is time for brekky.

Finally, the group shall end when the last of the mango rains has complete flooded all the neighbouring residential estates because the sewer….ooops, mountain stream has been blocked by an unusual combination of foreign particulate matter and Tantric Tantie participants.

Swami Detective // Apr 26, 2010 at 1:21 am

If I have an issue with the Pune resort, they say it has nothing to do with them, and direct me to OIF. OIF politely replies and says it is nothing to do with them, ask the Pune resort.

Get this though, if I get in a bit of a scrap with OIF, then all of a sudden I am banned from the Pune resort. Keep in mind that the Pune ‘resort’ is the central hub of the Osho movement. You become known as an outsider or and outcast, and so you have to go off and find new friends. Maybe those friends are nastier than the ones you were not permitted to connect with.

If you think that is pretty convoluted, just wait, cause theirs more. OIF fraudently trademarks everything imaginable to do with Osho by omitting the fact that he is not just a made up name like “Coca-Cola”, but a real famous historic spiritual figure. Of course when the trademark ruling went against OIF, we had Sadhana (the resort spokesperson) blasting the US ruling. She said that they were treating ‘Osho’ as if it was a name like “Coca-Cola”. It is precisely because ‘Osho’ is not something like “Coca-Cola” that the ruling went against OIF. It is precisely because OIF made the presentation that ‘Osho’ was a name like “Coca-Cola” that it received the trademarks. Talk about cultish screwed up mentality!

OIF needed to demonstrate that it had ‘control’ over all the ‘legitimate’ Osho centres in order to progress in its legal monopolisation. So it simply stated, and under oath, that it had ‘control’. Then, once it gained legal standing (with multiple trademarks for example), it sent out legal contracts for all the Osho centres to sign, such that once they signed this letter, OIF effectively had ‘control’. So then if I ask OIF, hey you guys have the copyrights and trademarks for Osho, but do you have control of the centres. OIF will say yup we sure do, and here is the legal documentation to prove it. Talk about a cultish screwed up mentality!

The vision of Osho as unfolding under the guidance of Jailesh and Amrito is for all to see at the Pune resort. A key element in the platform is a no-nonsense Zen style approach that seeks to weed out devotional elements that could lead to the formation of a religion. Yet numero uno Jailesh holds a deeply devotional view of Osho. He reckons that even people that have never met Osho can get fully in touch with Osho (the being), and need no help from all the fake gurus and priests (and I suppose mental health professionals too). At the core of his belief system is a deeply (if not extreme) devotional position. What about all the other people like Vatayana and others who have worked tirelessly day and night for the last two decades. Would you not call them great devotees? Talk about a cultish screwed up mentality!

What about the monsoon when all the water stations were closed because the drinking water contamination problem was first recognised? I know, lets do nothing and wait until the end of the monsoon such that then the drinking water stations will come clean anyway. Once the rains have stopped the micro-biologist does her tests….hey look, the drinking water stations are all clean. Wow, the problem has been fixed, and it cost us nothing.

Hey but what about that annoying engineer that first identified the problem and forced us to shut down all the water stations for weeks on end. I know, let’s make up a bunch of nasty lies, and then kick him out. But what if he responds? Ah no, he is just a dumb gardener, and anyhow why would he respond, he is always in silence.

Next monsoon the drinking water contamination was worse then the last time. Gee, lucky that damn engineer didn’t come till after the monsoon. Still he looks like trouble, and he just wrote a damn report that Amrito received (and in general agreed with). Also he started this DDOS campaign. I know, let’s threaten him. Ooops, that only made him send more DDOS’s.

And now, here he is at the Pune resort front gate with a water contamination report. I know let’s get Dhyanesh and the security team to bash him up. Damn he’s still here, and even though we continue to threaten him with the security team, and with our other friends outside the resort. Let’s try and bash him up again. After the second bash up attempt the engineer in a dazed state wanders into the Osho garden, only to be met by a guy with a knife.

The engineer is in a bit of shock after the clash at the front gate, and so only notices the guy with the knife just a metre or so in front of him, along a narrow isolated section of the garden. The blade is open, but not fully. The engineer stops abruptly and says…hey what’s this (pointing to the knife). The guy says, oh, and closes the blade. He than says he was just oiling it.

Wad da ya reckon Freschee? That engineer should do a bid of pillow bashing don’t ya dink? Yup he is a loser! Good that they banned him! Shoulda dun a bedder job of bashen im up I reckon. Makes all the other banned sannyassins want to come to Pune and go for a walk in the park doesn’t it! Seen or heard any signs lately? Nahh, the place is just like heaven, and hugs and kisses all round.

News was coming in thick and fast last year about the threat of Islamic terrorism. The resort touts that all is well, and come all yee faithful. Yet when the German Bakery was blown up what did the resort do? Well, everyone (other than Dhyanesh and Jayesh) meditated for an hour or more, and then it was decided that the best thing to do is throw a party! When Dhyanesh and Jayesh were asked where they were during all this, Osho beamed in a message to Amrito to tell everyone it was a special Inner-Circle secret. No comment! Yet, come all yee faithful! And come they shall say’s Sadhana cause they love Osho. Huhh, you kicked out all the Osho lovers a long time ago! Of course all the cult leaders and followers are still jostling for positions.

Sheela and Gang Orange people Cult™

Jayesh and Gang Maroon people Cult™

Swami Detective // Apr 25, 2010 at 6:33 am

OIF initiated proceedings by trying to stop a group using the word “Osho” in their domain name. If OIF won this, then Kranti, you would not be able to express your love for Osho on “KrantiLovesOsho.com”, unless OIF allowed it.

It is not possible to trademark a famous historic figure. OIF, in getting their trademarks associated with “Osho”, actually committed fraud by omitting the fact of Osho being a famous historic figure.

Imagine Kranti if you go to your home town and set up a program that including let’s say Dynamic Meditation (as per Osho guidelines). OIF had the name trademarked, so that means you cannot legitimately use the name unless OIF allows it.

In a way it can act as a protection of the integrity of “Osho”, in the same way that having a copyright can work to protect the integrity of his works. The trouble is OIF has used the copyrights to shut down authentic Osho individuals and organisations that have sought to share Osho (with utmost concern for quality and integrity). They were misusing their authority to control rather than to protect. This was being extended to trademarks to further extend their control. Of course the trademarks were attained fraudulently. Lust for power knows no end. OIF then sought to control Osho centres by coercing them (perhaps evening called extortion, another potentially criminal offence) to sign a legal contract (called a Letter of Understanding).

Tell me how it is right that someone fraudulently attains monopolisation of “Osho” through omitting that he is a famous historic figure? Is OIF above the law? Perhaps OIF is sanctioned by Osho because Osho secretly whispers in Jayesh’s ear from Planet Osho. What right does the legal system have to interfere in the operation of a mystery school? Religion is above law and all the infidels.

The successful media campaign by OIF and Pune Resort is a powerful argument. Reflect on this, that if Sheela had her way, Osho’s books would too be in every book store through out the world. The Ranch would have been the world headquarters for Osho. So many innocent seekers would have been drawn to a dangerous and powerful religious cult. Knowing what Sheela conspired to do, attempted to do, and actually did, can you imagine what should might have got up to if she got her way?

Editing of these books has gone far beyond the basic grammatical omissions. Perhaps some power is commanded by the publishing giants. Publishing giants know what formula makes good sales and profits. Osho becomes a famous popular fiction. Perhaps some of the editing, and omission of certain discourses, is entirely to project a certain dimension of Osho….the Jayesh and Amrito version of Osho Zen (as per the resorts guidelines). Of course it is not all about neo-Zen, because Jayesh and Amrito need certain elements of Osho’s devotional insights to hold onto power. What was it in the Dark Ages…“I am the sole authority through which God speaks”. You will find in time that the editing and omissions will be refined on the bases of maintaining religious power and control over the Osho movement. This is even more important than the publishing giants know-how about what makes a popular fiction sell well.

Perhaps you think that such a view is a fictional conspiracy. I guarantee you that Sheela would have done just the same thing when trying to spread Osho’s message far and wide, that is if she was not stopped.

Fresch is of the view that this is all in the realm of religious politics. What happened at The Ranch was seriously criminal, not psycho projection baloney. Imagine what Sheela would be up to today if she was not stopped.

Plenty of people missed the signs of what was going on at The Ranch, and the signs were glaringly obvious. Sannyassins overheard conspiring to murder or plans to poison, and still stayed in their insane spiritual trip that all is well and good.

Seen or heard anything that might be a sign about the current Inner-Circle, OIF, and the Pune resort? Nahh, everything is cool, the resort is a slice of heaven, and I wish those bad people would stop saying such nasty lies.

Kranti you spend so much time praising the resort, and thinking of your beloved Osho. Finally you quit your job and head off to Pune. How long did you last? Ten days or so wasn’t it. What, too much of a good thing was it? Yet here you are again lambasting all the unbelievers. You need a little credibility. See you at the resort. See if you can make three weeks, and we shall chat afterwards.

Swami Detective // Apr 24, 2010 at 1:16 am

Lokesh’s quote goes against everything that many Osho sannyassins have been conditioned to believe in. Yes Osho has said that He will be available to you even after leaving the body, if you go deep enough. Surprise, surprise, Osho has also said to get over it and find a living Master. The likes of Shantam, Fresch, and Kranti have already cried foul. What text is it? When did he utter these words? I don’t believe you? He probably said those things under coercion from someone! Ah, no, that was when he was being his old devotional self and he changed to new-age zen! You folks are nuts, but you are not alone.

There was nearly a major revolt in the late 90’s by a collective of Osho therapists. Turiya (Path of Love founder) was visiting another so-called Master. Jayesh sought to shut this down by offering, from his majestic position as Chairman of the Inner-Circle, that Turiya was not going deep enough, was only going to come to harm by visiting a fake guru, and that this was Osho’s position (based on Jayesh’s deep insight into Osho).

[Jayesh] He shares that many of His people who were with Him in the body would not make the jump from the presence of the master in the body to the absence of the master in the body. That for the mind of many, the gap created would be too deep and too wide. That in the mystery of existence, they would not understand that they had received from existence exactly what was required of the Master’s bodily presence. And that in this pain of the mind they would travel the world sitting at the feet of every idiot – Osho’s words. Clear, accepting and compassionate.

[Jayesh] He also says that His new people, who would be coming after He left the body, would not have the need of His physical presence – again in the mystery of existence, if they had that need they would have come earlier. He says existence calls people to the work of an enlightened One at exactly the right moment. That because of countless generations of religions and priests, we are conditioned that we need the other and as a result we give the other our responsibility. That his new people coming would be very fragile in their potential to be totally responsible and be courageous enough to walk alone, feeling the presence of the Master without the need of His body.

[Jayesh] It is clear to us that it is best for Osho’s work that you not offer your work in Osho Centers, nor as an Osho therapist at this time. The doors of course are always open to you as a meditator .

In August of 1998, Jayesh sent a copy of the letter to all Osho Meditation Centres throughout the world.

Turiya, after a time of reflection, came to a view that was in accordance with Jayesh, and was deeply apologetic, and very clearly from the heart.

Turiya accepted Jayesh’s position, and presumably so to did all the Osho Meditation Centres.
Now we have Lokesh quoting Osho as saying you would be going against His wishes if you did not go to a living Master, if you rather stayed with a dead Master. So who is Jayesh to enforce just one of Osho’s array of views on any given subject? Is it Jayesh that has the authority and capacity to decree that all Osho therapists must subscribe to his personal views, based on the quotes of Osho that he likes. Turiya felt the need to visit a living Master. Jayesh, in his letter, actually denied Turiya the chance to grow, and in accordance with Osho (read Lokesh’s quote). How can it be good than for an Osho therapist to have their wings clipped and therefore be less in a capacity to do their work in helping people that come to Osho? Turiya accepted Jayesh’s view of Osho and was therefore restricted in spiritual growth. This can only seek to also be a dis-service to all those that did (and do) the Path of Love.

OIF would prefer that a quote like Lokesh’s never again see the light of day. It seeks to take aware their entire power base. People like Jayesh and Amrito have no capacity to give an inspirational discourse, to offer new meditations or therapies, or to drown you in their silence. There entire power base is a monopolisation of Osho’s legacy and resources. And here we have a quote from Osho that is an arrow into the great myth. Go forth and find another living Master.
Jayesh needs to enforce his interpretation of Osho because if he does not, he stands to lose his power base. He will lose control of Osho therapists, some Osho Meditation Centres, and ultimately Osho’s legacy (dream).

Not even Turiya had the sense to see beyond Jayesh’s imposition of the select way he would like to view Osho, the select way he would like everyone to view Osho. Then of course we have the likes of Shantam, Fresch, and Kranti, that have an incapacity to give even a moments reflection without denouncing, ridiculing, and ostracising anyone or anything that stands against this imposition (even Osho himself).

Can not some people see some sense? What of Turiya now? What of all the Osho Meditation Centres that still follow Jayesh’s interpretation of how things should be? Yes it may likely be that a dead Master like Osho is of immense benefit, especially when there are so many charlatans. Still, the people who have fallen in line behind Jayesh and his dream (fantasy) are not following Osho, and nor are they following their own heart. They are following Jayesh and he is the real charlatan.

Given enough time, any evidence of quotes like the one from Lokesh will be removed from record. They are very dangerous. Such quotes will be removed from the texts, and even removed from discourses. In this way, after a while, Osho will become just the way Jayesh and his team would like him to be, and they can hold onto their grip on religious power. It is an abuse of power and a desecration of the spirit and legacy of the Master called Osho.

Swami Detective // Apr 22, 2010 at 9:50 am

Movie Scene: Last day of court proceedings in case of State versus Sheela and Gang Pty Ltd
Prosecutor Swami SheerLuck Homer Sampson has put forward an impressive case based on never heard before clues, queues, innuendoes, and the great reasoning of The Enlightenment. Swami SheerLuck was without doubt he would win against the evil weight of the Dark Ages.

Defence demon Swami ShoutAtEm Goliath and Ma Fresch Truolip were about to make their closing remarks. Judge Judy Jiltered Jitterbrain Jam Em in the Jugular was growing impatient and was about to throw Sheela and Gang Pty Ltd into an endless hard labour camp in a mine under a fault line on the Tibetan plateau when suddenly….

Swami PsychoBabbleButtock and Swami Veer-ish Sideways from the inHumaniversity started a raucous Encounter training with the key witnesses. Aferwards, with little left of the court-room and its prestigious furnishings, the key witnesses changed their accounts. It turns out that it was just a mash of magic mushroom mania caused by Swami Loopy Lockesh playing some far out music at the full loony moon party. The weapons used in the mosh pit were actually just pillows. It was all a projection.

It had been a big week for Swami Veer-ish Sideways. He had already successfully hosted Papa Barbituate the Sexteen and his flock of fondling Mishaps for an Aum marathon. Afterwards Papa and the Mishaps voted to enshrine Celabation as their new code of conduct, and Zorba the Geek as their new holy text.

[Back at the courtoom] Just as the last key witness screamed at the top of his (and her) voice that it was all a projection, a secret electronic money transfer was made from Swami Juggling Jinfidelity Jailesh in Swishzerland to the inHumaniversity in Holeland.

Then, Swami Veer-ish Sideways whispered a curt few phrases in the Defence teams ears. A slight yet confident smile grew on the faces of Swami ShoutAtEm and Ma Fresch Truolip.
With the key witnesses now engaged to be married in an orgy of wild celebation, Swami SheerLuck’s confidence was beginning to waver.

Judge Judy Jilt was growing impatient beyond her usual schizzoid self.

Swami ShoutAtEm quietly and solemnly spoke…..Judge & Judy, I implore you to see reason. The for-end-sick “evidence” is but from ga ga Guru-dom. It is all a pillowy projection.

Ma Fresch Trulip quickly followed up…..Judge & Judy, I beg of you to make sense of this matter. The for-end-sick “evidence” is but from la la Therapy-land. It is all a pillowy projection.

Judge Judy Jilt immediately saw the flame and sentenced Swami SheerLuck to 5 life-times spinning around on the ferris-wheel in Fantasy-Land. She then gave the keys to the United States of America to Sheela and Gang Pty Ltd.

Swami Detective // Apr 22, 2010 at 1:20 am

You would never catch me anywhere near Koregaon Park and the Osho Resort. So it is no personal loss to me if the continuing problems worsen. It is a deep irony that the people that are trying to shut down the voice of truth and social justice shall be the ones to be exposed to possible suffering. There is no chance that I will be consuming volumes of tap water during a neo-Wow event. There is no chance that I will have my legs pulverised and scattered to the far corners of the resort by a bomb.

Yes it is like moths too the flame. This is unfortunate but it is difficult when a mule is also blind. What gets me is those that flock to the flame because they are convinced by the media and the believers that it is actually a diamond they are heading towards. Yes the stubborn and thick skinned have to learn the hard way. (I have no expectation whatsoever that some people commenting on this site will get this, but here I am refering to Fresch, Kranti, Shantam, and many others). I just do not think that it is fair that innocent people suffer. That is what really gets to me, even more than the ignorant minds of the flock. Of course the source of this harm is another issue.

Swami Detective // Apr 21, 2010 at 10:46 am

Schedule Revision at Oshowitz De-oath and Deconstruction Camp

Tonight: New feature movie called Close Encounter Group with the Third Kind. Story line is about the evolution from animal, to man, to Oshowitz sannyas-sin man. Take a seat amongst a third generation pack of ferocious dengue mozzies down at the local sewer. The movie shall be projected on to the next generation plazma swamp. Of course to those that don’t know, the swamp is known on Osho.com as the sparkling mountain stream (Fresch from the Himalayas).

Tomorrow Night: Tomorrow night never comes.

Tonight the Second: Live re-enactment of the Close Encounter Group of the Third Kind. Special feature is Jayesh wearing an Osho hat in the shape of a nuclear missile. This is the extended version and so Jayesh repeats the following verse until everyone desperately runs off to do Dynamarmite at 6 the following morning: “Do you know who I am? I will not let you leave because I am a dreamer”.

Efforts to leave the O-tel California style lock-down are thwarted by a crafty security plan swiftly brought into play before the creditors roll in. You see the trouble is Dhyanesh, flanked by Yogendra and his band of sword wielding bandits, stop everyone from fleeing the scene. No one ever finds out why this happened, and Dhyanesh cannot be reached for comment, Jayesh escaped by launching his Osho hat, and the rest of the team are playing pass the secret.

Swami Detective // Apr 21, 2010 at 8:50 am

Kranti has attained to wisdom at the Oshwitz Residual Camp , and coaxed by Amrito at his side and Dhyanesh menacing from behind, just manages to do two copy and pastes, and of course one apology for being himself.

OIF bashing is boring because no intelligent response is forthcoming.

Swami Detective // Apr 21, 2010 at 8:47 am

In the midst of phase 2 of Dynamic Sadhu manages to log on to GagAss News and demand we all do Dynamite the way he wants it. Sadhu I can tell you, and in fact I will tell you, nothing will come out of your conversation!!!

Swami Detective // Apr 20, 2010 at 9:24 am

(Editorial Context) OK OK, just to please SannyasNews, appease Freschee, and confuse Mr Smartyn, I will follow strict Osho protocol and give comment only within the guidelines of the lead article.

The resort looks the antithesis of a closed religious society, such as the deeply floored one imagined by Elizabeth Day. Anyone can enter the gateless gate, though a few extra dollars in the pocket make it easier. Anyhow the pricing structure and resort model discourage people lingering too long and creating the problems of closed social structures that may become alienated from the outside world. The removal of obvious religious markings and the creation of modern resort-like facilities give the impression that there is a now a seamless blend with the outside world. All this too created by the visionaries Jayesh, Amrito, and others in the Inner-Circle and in resort management.

How long has Dhyanesh lived in his space in Krishna House. The man has only lived and breathed Osho since he finished Law school. When he went for a trip to visit his beloved in London he didn’t like it and wanted to come home straight away. The beloved is not important. What is important is to stand at the top of the auditorium stairs (the pulpit) before White-Robe, and to be someone special. And not just an ordinary person of prestige, but a person with religious prestige. Just listen to Sadhana talk. She is absolutely unable to string a single sentence together that is not a dull repetition of Osho. Have you had the opportunity to see how Jayesh manages the place. His language in managing the day to day affairs is infused with a spiritual gloss. His approach is laced with spiritual connotations. How many years has Amrito been living in the little room adjacent to Osho’s original bed-room? These people live and breath Osho. What is their connection to, and view of, the outside world?

Are you aware of the writings of people like Prem Abhay and Swami Rajneesh. What if what is said about food hygiene and water sanitation, of ugly political and financial scheming, and of violence and assault, is the case. Would that surprise you? Would you just say that well it is India after all so yes I did expect such things.

If you have followed the discussion about the terrorist threat and Bakery bombing it would also appear that management is indeed severely wanting. Is it really the case? Well the water is a tough one and you cannot read the microbial test results so who knows, Abhay is probably a dangerous nutter like they say. So likely is Swami Rajneesh, and many others. (In the least they probably needs therapy, right Freschee?) Yet with this terrorist stuff the facts are not old and do not lie hidden. Of course a reasonable number of Osho sannyasins will have their blinkers on, but plenty will not. And plenty of people who aren’t conditioned by Osho ideology will also not be secretly bidding for anything Osho.

It all really makes me wonder about this new revamped worldly Osho movement created by Jayesh and the like. How’s about I find out about what is really going on by asking a few questions and asking around. Oh, no one will give me any straight answers, and the general community appears scared to get involved in any discussion. Oh, the management of the resort have a secretive no comment style of operating. This is all very strange. I thought they were very worldly. I thought OshoWorld and the like were the extremist devotees, and Jayesh and crowd were part of the worldly way of integration. This seems to not make much sense.

When I look at it, it appears that at a senior level of functioning, the management of the resort (including OIF and the Inner-Circle) is deeply devotional despite removing a lot of the obvious physical markings at the resort, and are not particularly involved with the outside world. Yes all the old sannyasins probably can only afford to come for a few weeks, as with new seekers. Yet the little clique at the top of the power structure does not live accordingly. Sure Osho did set up a structure that had a management that stayed longer term, with others coming and going and thus integrating with the world. Over the first ten years of Osho leaving the body this management went through a civil war of sorts. The outcome of it is that almost all the original Inner-Circle members are now refugees. So, is the new Osho elite fulfilling Osho’s requirement to act as care-takers of functional managerial positions? I can only hope so, I can enjoy wondering, I can think it unlikely from what I have seen, but how can I find out for sure?

I really need to be again convinced that resort management and the Inner-Circle are who they claim to be. They are interesting in a model of living that encourages worldly integration. There can and will be communes of all types of persuasions. They will have their benefits and their problems.

If the managerial elite of the resort model of Osho are actually living a closed communal life, and if they are actually seriously dysfunctional, extremist religious devotees, than I wonder two things. I wonder what they will do next, and I wonder about the effects on people of worldly persuasion that come and go.

In a closed communal life there is the possibility of implosion (mass suicide for example) or eventual explosion with the outside world. This latter possibility was what Sheela was creating at The Ranch. However the idea of the primary focus being coming and going from a spiritual centre is a new creation. It has the possibility of a different outcome. If such a model continues to operate and if it is seriously dysfunctional, then it will be like a cancer that grows and lives in a closed cyst-like environment, but also spreads surreptitiously and extensively. Healthy people will come for a few weeks, and take the disease back with them and spread it to their worldly friends. If more dysfunctional resorts spring up than the situation can become very serious indeed. So I would say we are looking at something new here, growing out of the problems that can be created from something old (the closed communal life).

The result would be almost unnoticeable at first, especially if you are of the view like Shantam (for example), that at a practical managerial level all is well at the resort. The clue is indeed whether or not they are performing their duties. The pointer is that some people say they are not, these people appear to be rational human beings, and other factors are pointing the same way. The critical point is that the organisation functions in a veil of total secrecy, and that it defends this secrecy with an aura of arrogance and superiority. This all points to the possibility of a very serious cancer, and if it is the case, under the new model, the cancer will (and has already) spread.

Under the new model it is that you will not notice so much the spread because it will be dispersed. Yet though it will at first be light it will make up for this it its reach. In a way, the new model has the potential to be more threatening and dangerous for society. With signs that the nub of religious power at OIF, the Inner-Circle, and the resort seemingly out of kilter, I would say there may be a problem here. If there is a bulbous cancer already, then it also be already spread. If it continues to grow, and if it continues to create other nodes, then we may have a big problem here. This is why I say that firstly a clear medical assessment be done, and second a clear model be put in place that addresses the underlying issue of corruption of religious power. It is of course the same old problem from the commune model.

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Swami Detective // Apr 19, 2010 at 12:51 am

Shantam Star to say so strongly and repeatedly that you have no doubt of the managements practical capabilities is a clear sign that you are holding onto a false belief, and at a deeper level actually know it yourself, though you are afraid to admit it. Your shift in acknowledging just slightly the vulnerability of the resort is a case in point.

Freschee you have a beautiful heart yet it lies often exposed to the whim of your fanciful mind. Though, often times your mind has a deep and sharp perception. You allude to me hijacking SannyasNews. Where do you think I learnt my craft?

So Freschee you would like me to have a little walk around the resort. What will it be then, a pleasant meet and greet? Or is it that you would like me to do a surveillance job? If so, for whom would I working?

I am a freelancer and belong to Osho, to myself, to nobody, and to everybody. I have a natural flare for getting people to raise their spirits into a crescendo (so to speak). In the business it is called a fire test. You want to know what lies lurking within someone’s well dressed façade and sweetest of smiles. Simply pass a flame over them and see if there is anything combustible.

I would say the resort is ripe for a fire test. Let’s say you and me wander in for a cuppa. If Frank, Bob, and Tony have finished their oShoW road oShow, then they can have front row seats. Of course I need to consider alternative possibilities. One is that I may get burnt. Another is that the delightful fellows down at Pune police central might invite me for an extended stay. On the positive side it just might move the trajectory of social slumber and avert impending doom and gloom.

How lucky it was the night of the GB blast the even a half-witted terrorist was not also interested in the resort. I hope there is never a next time, but one cannot live in la la therapy land if responsible for more than just there own personal journey into psychological sanity.
Of course I come at a price, and since my offer of 1 bag of gold to Mr Smartyn was rejected with much poetic humour, the price is now 2 bags of gold. You will have to find a way to deposit this under my rainbow, but anyhow you are a business executive aren’t you?

I wonder why Swami Rajneesh’s website has been shut down by a DDOS attack? I wonder where that came from?

Ahhh more and more questions, seemingly endless, maybe infinite, possibly divine, likely non-dual, and definitely not enlightened!

Swami Detective // Apr 18, 2010 at 11:22 am

OK Fresch let’s talk about your psychological problems instead of mine shall we. The following is not intended to be an attack, but rather simply the truth of things as I see it. What else to do?
You have a very powerful image of Amrito and Osho as symbols of your ‘father’ in your mind. You love them as you would your ideal male archetype. The resort is an extension of them and so it is also of deep importance to you. This is an image that you want to protect at all costs.
If someone says something that looks like it is criticising this image, then you will defend the image at all costs. The problem is that this is simply a powerful image of an ideal in your mind. You have a strong bond or connection with Amrito, with Osho, and with the resort. This has helped create the image. The problem is that because you desire or long to melt with your ideal, this very desire transforms the image into something that becomes out of touch with the reality that created it. You desire to melt with a father figure, and for sure losing your dad when you were young means that this desire runs very deep.

The deep desire is the primary property of your image. The desire feeds the image and makes it look ever so heavenly beautiful. You will no doubt have a physical image of Osho, of Amrito, and of the resort that is a powerful mind projection fuelled by this desire. Once the desire drops the image loses its magic in a strange way. Amrito will look quite ordinary then, and you will just think he is not so special anymore. Still, once you see Amrito as he is and the resort as it is, they will be simply a reflection in your awareness not a seemingly endless desire in your mind. Yes your ideas about certain things will lose their gloss, but these objects will no longer have any power over you, and you will have gained your silent centre.

The pattern of excessive mental projection out of desire is like an over-ride in the mind. The mind is no longer available to think about other things. Even to consider that your beautiful mental image may have a few blemishes is inconceivable because it is so precious. The confusion is that it is only precious because you desire it to be precious. This is why they say vipassana is to see things clearly or to see things as they are. The desire fed mental imagine that we spend our whole life viewing and protecting is a mental fiction.

There are some various serious questions about the conduct of the management at the resort. When I say this you do not believe me. You say that I am on my own mental trip and I am here on SannyasNews just doing a little catharsis. The reason why you say this is because you need to defend your precious image. You view what I am saying as a threat to this image. Yet, you do not actually have a mental understanding of the content of what I am saying. There is a little program in your mind that runs beneath the surface of your mind as your read what I am writing here. The little program says essentially that I am on a mental trip and need a little therapy. Because this program is running, and because your mental energy is pouring into your precious image of Osho, Amrito, and the resort, there is no space to actually process what I am writing. Certainly there is no space to actually gather the basic facts that are available, and process them into a rational understanding.

Shantam is doing the same when he is making light of the terrorist issue, and refusing to consider that Jayesh and Amrito and others may be seriously dysfunctional at a practical managerial level. He has move a little in his understanding and let go of a little of his precious image (imagination) of Osho. This is also evident in his sardonic little post above.
We cannot travel inwards if the outer world is always demanding our attention. Every human being has a built in survival function. If that function is activated then the energy is going out. That is why doing a vipassana retreat in a space that does not feel safe is a contradiction. As you sit silently the reality that the place is not safe will keep entering your mind. In this way you will not be able to meditate. It is natural that this be the case, but it is not much good if you are going to a meditation resort.

Safe Travels

Swami Detective // Apr 18, 2010 at 10:36 am

Your ideas about my personal psychological issues have nothing to do with the issue at hand. Even if I have said everything already, then presumably it must therefore be time to hear a reasonable response.

If everything appears to be running smoothly than the secretive, no comment mentality of the leadership is a concern, but at least workable. Unfortunately the response to the terrorist threat appears deeply lacking. To accuse me of lacking in compassion when the resorts response appears to be anything but compassionate is a little contradictory.

I shouldn’t think it would help me much if, while I was being dehypnotised by your beloved Doc for my obsessive compulsive behaviour disorder, someone walked in and blew me up.

Swami Detective // Apr 18, 2010 at 10:05 am

This is the real world not some la la therapy land.

Ask the people that suffered life long injuries from the GB blast to move on and get over it.

Why don’t you tell them that it was their fathers fault.

Swami Detective // Apr 18, 2010 at 9:54 am

I am being honest. There are serious questions about the conduct of the resort in recent times. No answers are forthcoming. Why do you think that is? How about you explain to me and the Observer what the resort did in response to the news it received from the police late last year, what it did immediately after the GB blast, and what it is now doing, to protect people that visit the resort. This needs answering and is being avoided. Why is that? Surely there are simple answers? How about you give Amrito a call right now, have your little chat, and give us some feedback.